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Financial assets, vs Physical assets in 2025: the scoreboard

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1) “Financial assets” vs “physical assets” in 2025: the scoreboard 🧾📊

Physical / real-world stuff (your list)

  • Silver: +124%

  • Platinum: +104%

  • Palladium: +76%

  • Gold: +63%

  • Copper: +29%

Financial / paper promises (your list)

  • Google: +62%

  • Nvidia: +32%

  • Mag7: +22%

  • Tesla: +21%

  • Apple: +10%

  • Meta: +12%

  • Amazon: +1%

  • Bitcoin: -6% (lol, “digital gold” doing push-ups in the red) 🫠

What this screams: 2025 (per your snapshot) looks like a regime where scarcity + supply constraints + macro uncertainty paid more than duration-heavy growth stories. The rocks, the shiny disks, and the industrial inputs outperformed the apps and ad auctions. Not because metals are “smart” assets, but because they’re brutally simple: no CEO, no guidance, no multiple compression, no accounting creativity 🔩🪙


2) Why physical assets can embarrass financial assets (especially in certain regimes) ⚙️🏦

Financial assets (equities, “Mag7”, etc.)

Equities are claims on future cash flows. Their price is basically:

  • Expected cash flows (earnings)

  • discounted by interest rates / real yields (the “duration” effect)

  • multiplied by the mood (risk premium / multiples)

So when rates, liquidity, or uncertainty shift, the same business can trade at wildly different valuations. Markets don’t “discover truth”, they auction impatience 📉🤝

Physical assets (metals, commodities)

Commodities are mostly spot-driven with a different plumbing:

  • Supply constraints (mines, refining, geopolitics, energy inputs)

  • Inventory cycles (tightness shows up fast)

  • Futures curves (contango/backwardation = the hidden tax/bonus)

  • Monetary hedging demand (gold especially)

No cash flows, no DCF. They’re priced like a blunt instrument because… they are one 🔨

Cynical translation:
Equities are a spreadsheet about the future. Commodities are the present grabbing you by the collar.


3) Inside the “physical” basket: not all shiny things are the same 🧪🪙

Gold (+63%): monetary metal, volatility dampener 🏦🟡

Gold tends to win when:

  • real yields fall or

  • confidence in monetary/financial plumbing gets wobbly or

  • central bank demand/FX hedging behavior increases (structural bid)

Gold is not “productive”. It’s credibility insurance.

Silver (+124%): gold’s caffeinated cousin ⚡️🥈

Silver is both:

  • a monetary metal proxy (trades with gold during “money drama”)

  • and an industrial metal (higher beta to growth/manufacturing cycles)

So it whipsaws more. When it runs, it can run violently because liquidity is thinner and positioning gets crowded fast 📈

Platinum (+104%) / Palladium (+76%): the PGM soap opera 🚗⚗️

PGMs are heavily tied to:

  • auto catalysts (and substitution between Pt/Pd),

  • supply concentration,

  • idiosyncratic deficits/surpluses.

They can rip on tightness, then crater on demand shocks. They are not “safe havens”. They’re special situations wearing a metal costume 🎭

Copper (+29%): “the PhD in economics” metal 🔌🟠

Copper is mostly:

  • growth/industrial cycle,

  • capex and grid build-out,

  • China/global manufacturing sensitivity,

  • supply pipeline constraints.

If copper is only +29% while precious metals are triple-digit, that often smells like: monetary hedging > pure growth optimism.


4) Why the “financial” list looks… tired 🧠📉

When megacap tech is already priced like perfection, 2025 upside (in your snapshot) becomes harder:

  • You’re not just betting “good company”.

  • You’re betting future margins + future growth + future rates + future sentiment all cooperate.

That’s a lot of fragile assumptions stacked like champagne flutes 🍸

  • Google +62%: cash machine, but still valuation + ad cycle + regulatory overhang.

  • Nvidia +32%: even if fundamentals are strong, the market can say “great, but we priced that… and the sequel… and the director’s cut.”

  • Mag7 +22%: concentration trade fatigue.

  • Amazon +1%: classic “execution vs expectations” grind.

  • Bitcoin -6%: liquidity proxy cosplay. Sometimes it hedges. Sometimes it faceplants. In your scoreboard, it chose option B 🧾🥶


5) The screenshot: Gold/Silver ratio as a stress barometer 🔍📈

Your chart is Gold/Silver ratio (1950–2025) and it’s doing what it always does:

  • It spikes during crises (your annotations: Savings & Loans, Financial Crisis, Covid)

  • It compresses during reflation / risk-on / silver manias (your circled lows: 1980 “15 handle”, 2011 “hits 32”)

Mechanically:
Gold/Silver ratio = (Gold price) / (Silver price)

So:

  • Higher ratio = gold outperforming silver (or silver lagging) → typically “stress / deflationary fear / flight to quality”

  • Lower ratio = silver outperforming gold → typically “reflation / speculative appetite / industrial demand + leverage”

You wrote: “Gold–Silver ratio at ~65 this morning” (the chart shows ~65.524).

What does ~65 mean in context?

Not extreme. Not complacent. Mid-high.

Historically on your chart:

  • Panic can push it above 100 (Covid peak labeled ~112.9)

  • Mania/reflation can drag it toward 30s (2011) or even teens (1980)

Quick scenario math (holding gold flat) 🧮

If the ratio mean-reverts and gold stays unchanged, silver moves roughly like the inverse of the ratio:

  • From 65.5 → 50: silver ≈ +31%

  • From 65.5 → 40: silver ≈ +64%

  • From 65.5 → 90: silver ≈ -27%

  • From 65.5 → 110: silver ≈ -40%

That’s why silver is the preferred instrument for people who enjoy rollercoasters and have a strong relationship with nausea 🤢📉

Cynical but accurate: the ratio is a macro mood ring. It doesn’t predict the future. It tells you what the market is panicking about today.


6) So what’s the “topo” takeaway? 🧭

  1. Your 2025 snapshot looks like a rotation toward real assets, whether from inflation anxiety, fiat skepticism, supply tightness, or just “too much paper, not enough atoms” 🧾➡️⚙️

  2. Gold is the thesis. Silver is the leverage.
    Gold: credibility hedge.
    Silver: credibility hedge + industrial beta + speculative accelerant.

  3. A Gold/Silver ratio around ~65 is not a finish line.
    It’s a “neutral-to-stressed” zone. It can compress hard in reflationary phases, or spike hard in liquidity events.

  4. Equities can still win long-term, but in certain regimes they become:
    “Wonderful businesses priced like flawless deities.” That’s when even good news is just… expected 😑📉

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